Friday, December 17, 2004

A numbers backlash?

Anonymous (?) posted a comment recently along the lines 'since when was Christianity anything to do with bums in pews anyway?'

Now i totally agree with that-but I do sometimes get a little annoyed at the 'I've got a better understanding of the kingdom of God than people in a big church' attitude that I hear a lot.

People just seem to want to start bagging out big churches just cos they're big. I have major issues with big churches, but it frustrates me when people seem to be saying that big churches don't grow disciples, crap theology,too many spectators etc.

I know heaps of people in big churches who have an awesome, life-changing faith and are really making an impact on the world around them.

Basically, what I'm saying is: I do believe that Jesus commands us to go and make disciples of all the earth, not just a couple of people. Of course we can't do it all ourselves, but the way we'll change the world is if a few disciples reproduce their lives into others, and those into others, and so on.

I remember a mate saying "I know its not about numbers, but hey, we've got 20 more kids here being a part of Christian community and hearing about Jesus than we did last year-and surely that can't be a bad thing?" Makes a fair amount of sense to me

Of course, the key is not kids in youth group or people at church, its disciples. But at the end of the day, the more disciples the merrier right?

(sorry if this is a bit non-sensical and rantish, I just needed to try and process these thoughts quickly!)


blondzila said...

Thought provoking post, digger. My question: what qualifies as a disciple?

Digger said...

Yeah good question. I was pondering the same thing myself once I finished writing. Discipleship is something we talk about a lot, but may not know all too much about.

My definition of discipleship is, pretty simply, the process of becoming more like Christ.

So what qualifies somebody as a disciple: Somebody who's main aim, who's determining factor in life is the life of Christ. Maybe... Let me think about that some more!

I might blog on that later, by which time my opinion may have changed!

blondzila said...

I'd be interested in your thoughts. I've always been fascinated with the myriad interpretations of the words of God as written by man, even as a "non-believer" such as myself. Your thoughts are honest and unique and I keep coming back for more :-)

Anonymous said...

Well said digger. It's not the fact that we have 1,5,10 or 100 people or if we reached our goal of 5, 10, or 20 more people, but that more and more people are giving their ives to follow Jesus. If this is happening then numbers will increase, but its not the fact we have more numbers that is good, but the fact that more people are experiencing a christian community and the like.

On what makes a disciple, I agree with you again, it's someone who is giving their life, 24/7, to Christ. Someone who's goal is becoming Christ-like and sharing their faith to help others understand God's love and forgiveness.

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