Friday, May 27, 2005

You can't be serious!

I've just seen this blog's link to a book entitled What Would Jesus Eat? The disturbing thing is these people are either serious, and need a good dose of perspective, or they're out to con money out of stupid fat Americans-the sad part about which is the fact that many of them will buy the book! (I'm not saying all Americans are stupid and fat, but the ones that are will be targetted by this marketing) Just eat a healthy diet-I seriously don't think what Jesus would have eaten has anything to do with our discipleship!

The other one was an ad for a DVD containing ten 3-minute countdowns before you start your youth program. Seriously, somebody has made little countdown timers and is trying to sell them off. So wrong in so many ways! I mean could we succumb to our consumer culture any more? Since when does having a countdown timer make any difference to your youth ministry? What ever happened to just loving kids...

And what does that say about whats important? Hey youth leaders, stopping connecting with kids, the important person up the front is now going to say something, that relationships aren't important, only the program is?? Youth ministry happens incidentally, as a part of life, sometimes as a part of a program, often not. Often the best ministry times are driving kids home, watching their sports game, stopping to say hi in the street-you can't put a countdown clock on real ministry.

6 comments:

Trav said...

Well said Digger, it's about relationships with teens not slick programming.

TJ said...

Digs, there is so much truth in that comment that i can hardly put words to the feelings i have...! I do understand the concept of annointed excellence... but i do not understand when a ministry (which barely should be allowed to have that title) when the programs, the systems and the "set plans", become bigger than real, honest and authentic (but yes intentional) relationships with people! surely that is what Jesus desires above institutional and inflexible structures we have created, that we often hide behind instead of taking the risk to really share our lives with people and let that become our ministry.

Mim said...

Hey, followed your link and that food thing is wrong on so many levels!
I'm sure Jesus diet was pritty standard of people in that social situation 2000 years ago and if those eating habits was the reason he came then and not today- I'm sure it would be mentioned somewhere.
The book also contradicts itself by saying not to be fussy about what you eat- how is being on a specific diet with rules not being fussy? I really don't think Jesus would have rejected an offer of pizza for dinner at someones house and made them make something else or leave. that was/is never the issue.
Totally agree- driving kids is the best- awsome op. for great conversations! and their stuck with me- no escaping!!- nah, think I'm starting to be seen as the youth taxie- but thats ok, if I'm free, happy to do.

Ravvy said...

I totally agree that there is and should not be any time limitations or countdowns when it comes to connecting to the unchurched kids... Im a leader for a friday night youth centre called GAP and our aim is TO connect with kids! if we had an agenda, it would never work! Being random works so much better and being random myself, means i fit in just snuggly with the kids and their craziness!
Whats important to me is that they consider me someone they can now approach to talk to and say hi to, and i dont feel like im having to force feeding them the Good News either!

My conclusion to the count down timers and the 'what would jesus eat' book...

.. they've gotta be from americans!
(if not... just say they are anyway)
:D

AJ said...

thanks for the link diggs, ive been looking for a countdown cd for a while now.

Mr. Selfdestruct said...

I'd take offence to the stupid fat americans comment, but my american blood is not mine, i got it off ebay.

With the issue of the book... power of suggestion with a side dish of a very addictive social virus religion (just to make things clear I'm refering to the religion as a corporate body, not to faith. I don't think i have to go through the explanation of the differences) is a dangerous thing. Some people will believe anything a confident person will say.

For the 3 minute countdowns... people will do anything for a fast buck. It could be based on a good suggestion, but selling it? It's not that big an idea. Maybe they had a whole pile of blank DVDs and felt like an all night limo ride...

Was the DVD only those countdowns? because i fail to see how someone would waste money on the production of something so poor.. But I guess, people will always pay for poor items that have no value, like Hillsong and their ambiguous love songs that are labelled as 'praise'.