Wednesday, August 01, 2007

Other people's spiritual journey's

Was having a discussion with a certain other anonymous commentor (lets call him U.H) of this blog the other day about somebody I know, and who has a family connection to some well known people in Australia.

They were asking about where this persn is at faith-wise; do they consider themself a Christian, do they go to church, what's their views on this and this, all of which I've had reasonably in-depth conversations with this person about.

I commented that I actually thought that it was none of my U.H's business where this other person stands spiritually, as it's quite a complex thing for them, and something they're still working through.

I felt that by sharing very much about where this person was at would be betraying their confidence, a view U.H disagreed with. It wasn't a hostile conversation or anything, but it did get me thinking about what right we have to make comment on where other people are at spiritually.

My tendency is to think we have very little right, it's just so easy to fall into judgement and boxing people as 'Christian' and 'non-Christian', and I just don't think it's necessary really.

13 comments:

Gareth LovesTha Pye said...

Personally I try to think more about how people relation to God and his plan is changing instead of their current position. In general though probably better to not characterize things too much at all :)

B.C. said...

I feel like it's almost impossible to even know where one stands spiritually, whether you are that one, or a bystander. It's always changing, with every thought or action, feeling, day. I don't feel like it's a linear, measurable sort of deal.

I think I agree, you shouldn't go divulging things you've discussed with another, to an other, unless you think there is good reason to. Sometimes there is. But a faith expression is so intimate and personal, that it should be treated so. Some people are super open about their faiths, and others never say a word about it.

I have now crossed the border to rambling.

The end.

Peace.

owl said...

Motive is a big one here. If the person does not have the Son of God, and UH's motive was to try to 'snatch one from the fire' then perhaps the question could be justified. Even then, praying for the person may have been more useful. If it was just pure inquisitiveness, then definitely not a reasonable ask.

Estelle b. said...

I personally think that people should stop worrying about how far along or how close others are to God. Instead they should worry more about whether they are close enough to God to be 'jesus-like' to everyone around them.

If someone is a non-christian and God wants you to bring them to "christian" status, I believe he's big and great enough to work through anyone.

Drawing closer to God is a natural, unforced thing. You can force someone as much as you want to be your ideal picture of 'christian' but in the end it's their choice, their step that will impact how close they are.

If that makes sense? let me know.

Anonymous said...

I think U.H sounds like a person with amazing incite and wisdom with pure motives and a love for all Gods creatures.

Digger said...

Yeah, dunno if i like the metaphor owl, but know what you mean, it's an interesting question.

What's it to us anyway?

Yeah makes sense Esky, worth worrying about yourself more than others.

No I disagree anonymous, UH sounds to me like a terrible, terrible man!

owl said...

'Snatching from the fire' is a quote from Jude (v 23). Great book - so much in 25 verses. Verses 17 to 23 have always raised a sense of responsibility in me, but one must be careful not to use them as an excuse to pry or condemn.

U.H. Oooooh. not rly sry. said...

we cant simply define as christian or non-christian, well put and something that i think people dont recognise often enough. It is i think a cause many could leave the church because of..not feeling comfortable or good enough to have discussions and such.

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