Wednesday, December 05, 2007

God knows everything

Have been having some great discussions with one of my VETAMORPHUS students from this year about what we believe about the whole 'Predestination/God knows everything that is going to happen in the world debate.'

His thoughts were basically that God does know everything that is going to happen in the world, because he knows so well what each of thinks and how etc, so therefore can know what will happen in the world. Also that God knowing everything means that God does not necessarily control everything.

I think that there is some merit to the knowing each of us really well theory, so knows what our reactions and thought/ideas will be. Has merit, but am not totally conviced. I struggle to separate God knowing everything that will happen in the future from God controlling everything that will happen in the future.

So, when I look at the world and see all the bad stuff that goes on, I struggle to see how that could all be in God's plan for us etc.

Perhaps there is a way that God knows everything, but doesn't therefore control it, but I'm still struggling to get my head around it.

My theory at the moment is basically that God has a plan for each of us, that God wants us to follow, but gives us freewill to not follow if we want, and go down whatever path we want.

5 comments:

owl said...

No scripture to back this up, but I think an all-powerful being could choose not to know exactly our future. It has been suggested even Judas could have chosen diffferently, but God knew he wouldn't. I'm not really sure there's much eternal value in some ponderings, though.

Gareth LovesTha Pye said...

I ponder on this a fair bit as well, we all do.

My geeky side comes out and wonders if the universe is not much more than an experiment of God and Satans. Like they were sitting around one day and wanted to prove which of them was better, so God created the world, and to make it a fair game he gave us free will.

Does that make sense to anyone?

¿johnman¿ said...

I tend to try to just get my head around that God created time and so while for us everything happens in stages maybe for him it just kinda happens all at once. I think the whole free will thing means that yeah He knows what we are going to do whether it is what He wants us to do or not. Also I go more along the lines of God has a will for us that is alot more fluid than we sometimes think, and that it is more important what we do each day than what i plan to do with the rest of my life.

Em said...

I think about this a lot...
I don't think I believe in 'pre destination' because it seems like it takes away my free will, like I'm not really making the decisions I make. And why would God 'pre destine' for me to make bad decisions?

I think that God knows everything that will happen (whether it's because he knows us so well, or just because he is all-knowing some other way) and has the power to change it any way he wants, but he gave us free will, so we make all the decisions.

nate said...

This has been one of the primary things on my mind... for many, many months.

I think it's important to remember that what WE think is best is not necessarily (and hardly ever) what God KNOWS is best. How can we expect to understand our Creator's ways that would be so far beyond our comprehension? "Bad" things are simply part of His almighty plan. It sounds iffy... but remember... God didn't create the evil. Even evil is within God's plan for everyones' future.

This is what I truly believe, after many, many sleepless nights.
Nonetheless, just my opinion; how can I expect to understand God's ways right?