Tuesday, August 26, 2008

More on Mike Guglielmucci

This blog, and this link in particular, raise some interesting questions about what Planetshakers' response to all of this is, in particular in regards to their music department.

…Planetshakers has removed references to Michael Guglielmucci, crediting his role on these albums, from their web-site.

For example, the online blurb for Planetshakers 2004 album “Always and Forever” previously read: Produced by lead songwriter Henry Seeley, with songwriting credits and lead vocals to Mike Guglielmucci and Sam Evans, Always and Forever is an album not to be missed.

Now, the blurb on the Planetshakers discography page reads: Produced by lead songwriter Henry Seeley, with songwriting credits and lead vocals to Sam Evans, Always and Forever is an album not to be missed.

And the blurb for the 2007 album “Never Stop” previously read:“Featuring Henry Seeley, Mike Guglielmucci and Sam Evans, this studio album is signature Planetshakers praise and worship for a new generation. Includes CD and bonus DVD of Planetshakers live worship and inspiring messages.”

Now:“Featuring Henry Seeley and Sam Evans, this studio album is signature Planetshakers praise and worship for a new generation. Includes CD and bonus DVD of Planetshakers live worship and inspiring messages.”

(All references to Planetshakers live album “Savior of the World” have also been removed entirely from the Planetshakers Discography page.)

These are conspicuous absenses given Mike Guglielmucci wrote 11 out of 13 of the songs on “Never Stop”, and 7 out of the 10 songs on “Always and Forever”…


I'm pretty unimpressed that they've removed his name from the credits of CDs he worked on. Name it and own it, or pull them. It's that simple.

My fellow gameshow-winning friend Alister Cameron has written a really important post about what we learn from situations like this here.

"The obvious question is this: How could no-one have known? Not even family! What kind of “system” can promote someone to such a place of influence and yet can fail to enforce a regime of accountability and scrutiny?"

It's interesting that a comment on a forum back in Oct 2006 was pretty dubious about it all too, check that out here.

Personally, I went to Planetshakers Sunday night to support a friend who is trying to deal with it all, and was fascinating to see how they responded. You could tell they were quite visibly shaken and shocked, and legitimately hurt and confused about what to make of it all.

They were, quite rightly, at pains to point out that nobody knew. The only bit I was a tad unimpressed by was the fact that they seemed to be trying to wash their hands of him in a sense, going to lengths to point out he hadn't been in direct ministry with them for 18 months, which was still after all the lying all started.

As another commentor says on the Planetshakersinsider blog, they raised him up, and they should be keeping him to account. But, no human system will ever be perfect at catching those that lie, and unfortunately for them and us, they stuffed up this one. They're not the first, and won't be the last.

The Church is just like any other organisation with normal human beings in it, and I for one don't want to be standing in my glass house throwing stones at them.

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Estelle b. said...

Great post my friend.

Thought: I find it peculiar that people are assuming Michael and Planetshakers leadership aren't comunicating at the present.

If someone crashes into your car, do you keep going or pull over and get their details?

Has anyone stopped to think that maybe Mike has something to do with the removal of his name?

Planetshakers might be a big and thriving church, but it's full of people who yes make mistakes but also have hearts of compassion, love, and care... this also includes mike.

And although Mike did something wrong, not everything he did was crap... he is, believe or not, a decent guy with a hugely amazing heart of gold. So I wouldn't be suprised if this was the case... I know if it were me, I would do the same.

... it's all about that sweet sweet perspective.

ib said...

Yeah the whole thing is still so raw.

Its a very emotionally charged procession that follows this story.

It is not straight forward, there is no easy way out.

I am still baffled by the whole thing, I just don't have a clue where to begin unpacking this.

I've read heaps about it, talking about it to people and it leaves me feeling stumped.

It was good to hear your thoughts.

Anonymous said...

Mike Guglielmucci - What can we learn from this?
a) Our faith is in Christ, not man. Man may fail, Christ never will.
b) Some doctors being frauds doesn't stop us from visiting those who aren't - why should this stop me attending my church where my Pastor is a faithful man of God?
c) As to how could nobody have known - well Jesus knew his treasurer was a thief but it was all part of a bigger plan - so maybe He has a bigger plan in all this..

Digger said...

Hmm yeah, maybe he has had something to do with it? But even so, I still disagree with the idea.

Why is it that you would do the same?

Digger said...

And Anon, yeah I think I struggle with the idea of God causing something like this. Using it for good-yes definitely, causing it-I'm not so sure.

I think I'd struggle to believe in that God.

God can make good of every bad situation, but I don't think God causes them.

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